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Change Up The Look

#1 User is offline   Pullman motors 

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 05:13 PM

Hi all
I’ve had my car for a few years now and time to change it slightly. Apart from ripping off the vinyl wrap and actually painting the car.

I need to sort out he banging and crashing! I’m actually thinking about selling the car but come to the realisation that what I’d actually get for the car won’t get me anything better for the same money...

What’s the best way of raising the rear of the car? I run standard size wheels but the wheel arch is basically the same height as the tire! I think it’s a problem with my leaf springs so changing them and getting another pair of shocks but would like to raise it for more clearance if possible.
Those F&£!?@# sported exhausts. It hits everything and if I can lift the rear would make my life better haha.


Also, when pulling away in first the car judder like you’ve not got enough revs or dragging the clutch...
Been doing it for about a year. Last year I took the clutch out and all is perfect so I’m thinking either gearbox or diff? Feels just like your ‘kangarooing’ the car till it stalls but it doesn’t it just drives through it.

Thanks in advance


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Posted 10 February 2018 - 05:50 PM

The rear of mine lifted a good bit simply by fitting poly bushes, as the originals were so worn.


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Posted 10 February 2018 - 07:20 PM

I have poly bushes fitted all round

Think the main problem is the leafs


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Posted 10 February 2018 - 07:49 PM

A good set of new leaf springs with decent bushes should restore it to normal height if that what you’re after. If you want to jack the car up though then longer leaf shackle plates are one way to do it. If all of this is just to stop the exhaust banging then maybe it would be cheaper and easier to replace the exhaust?


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Posted 10 February 2018 - 08:30 PM

I’ll see what happens when I put the leafs on, a friend reckons to cut the ends off my main ones and add them to the new ones?

I finally got the sportex exhaust bent correctly but it’s just too close the the springs.

Would change the exhaust but is there a particular one people recommend?
Can you buy extended shackles? Or I could make them

This post has been edited by Pullman motors: 10 February 2018 - 10:34 PM


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Posted 10 February 2018 - 11:22 PM

just avoid the speed bumpsPosted Image, if you want it to to handle decent, do not go higher, lower it an inch or 1 1/2 inch max . as said get some new springs and decent shocks, i have a sportex system and it did need a bit of a tweak bit of heat and bending but i'm sure they don't sit much lower than standard, if you're rear is that low then the springs are f***ed like mine were . don't even think about cutting and adding as your mate suggests, that is surely dangerous, get some single leafs and spax (or similar) adjustable shocks and you will be well sortedPosted Image


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Posted 10 February 2018 - 11:52 PM

View PostPullman motors, on 10 February 2018 - 05:13 PM, said:

Hi all
I’ve had my car for a few years now and time to change it slightly. Apart from ripping off the vinyl wrap and actually painting the car.

I need to sort out he banging and crashing! I’m actually thinking about selling the car but come to the realisation that what I’d actually get for the car won’t get me anything better for the same money...

What’s the best way of raising the rear of the car? I run standard size wheels but the wheel arch is basically the same height as the tire! I think it’s a problem with my leaf springs so changing them and getting another pair of shocks but would like to raise it for more clearance if possible.
Those F&£!?@# sported exhausts. It hits everything and if I can lift the rear would make my life better haha.


Also, when pulling away in first the car judder like you’ve not got enough revs or dragging the clutch...
Been doing it for about a year. Last year I took the clutch out and all is perfect so I’m thinking either gearbox or diff? Feels just like your ‘kangarooing’ the car till it stalls but it doesn’t it just drives through it.

Thanks in advance


Are you sure there aren't lowering blocks between the springs and the axle?

Re the clutch judder a new rear gearbox mounting sometimes cures this.

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 12:06 AM

View PostPullman motors, on 10 February 2018 - 08:30 PM, said:

I’ll see what happens when I put the leafs on, a friend reckons to cut the ends off my main ones and add them to the new ones?

I finally got the sportex exhaust bent correctly but it’s just too close the the springs.

Would change the exhaust but is there a particular one people recommend?
Can you buy extended shackles? Or I could make them


Recommended exhaust? Yes, the original one if it’s a Pinto. I changed my Sportex one for an original Ford spec on my 2.0s and found the engine to be more torquey and responsive than it was with the Sportex and a damn sight quieter for my more sensitive ears :rolleyes:

A Capri isn’t a Land Rover so if you want extended shackles to hot rod it then you’ll need to make your own.


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 02:10 AM

check prop centre bearing insulator if your getting drive train wobble its only secured with two 13mm bolts and you can pick up whole assemblies and the centre bearing for a good price
https://www.ebay.co....BYAAOSwQcJaAyDa

just unclip the tangs on the outer casing and transpant into your existing
cheap as chips and bearing fixed too

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 09:46 AM

When I first built the car it had lowering blocks but I took them out.
Maybe I’ll look at going back to a standard exhaust but I do like the sportex sound.

Hopefully the springs will be all I need but will get the shocks then see how it sits, I’ll try get a picture today at some point.


The judder- so far I fitted a gear box mount
Change the bearing/bush in the centre of the shaft
Engine mounts
As I said took the clutch out

Maybe I’ll try get a video of this aswell


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 03:10 PM

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 09:34 PM

that has stock suspension in the rear. 2" lower at the front but then has roller top mounts so think that adds a inch. fronts fine but as you can see, with nobody in the car the rear is dragging...


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 09:04 PM

View PostPullman motors, on 11 February 2018 - 09:34 PM, said:

that has stock suspension in the rear. 2" lower at the front but then has roller top mounts so think that adds a inch. fronts fine but as you can see, with nobody in the car the rear is dragging...


Tired springs methinks :thumbup1:


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 09:37 PM

newish single leafs polybushed, spax gold adjustable shocks and 1" lowering blocks
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old knackered broken multi leafs no lowering blocks and tired shocks
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 10:20 PM

yea ill get some springs... hahaha

well knackered!


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 11:20 PM

I changed my leaf springs thinking that was what was causing mine to sit low, turns out the suspension mount had rotted through and gone through the floor :angry:

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 11:51 PM

A friend had that on a figaro, apparently it’s very common for the left top mount to blow through on them...

Checked mine and luckily they’re ok so hopefully the spring will sort me out.


Now need to decide if I driving judder is the diff or gearbox....


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 08:11 AM

View PostPullman motors, on 12 February 2018 - 11:51 PM, said:

A friend had that on a figaro, apparently it’s very common for the left top mount to blow through on them...

Checked mine and luckily they’re ok so hopefully the spring will sort me out.


Now need to decide if I driving judder is the diff or gearbox....


If the rear springs are shot then anything associated with them that’s still original may be too. Things like bushes (not sure if these are the poly bushes you mentioned earlier), U bolts, shackles, prop, diff or the rear ARB. A systematic check of all of these when you replace the springs (and shocks?) will probably identify the issue. Also worth checking the bell housing to engine bolts are all in place and tight plus the engine mounts themselves.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 08:35 AM

View Posttrevster, on 12 February 2018 - 09:37 PM, said:

newish single leafs polybushed, spax gold adjustable shocks and 1" lowering blocks
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old knackered broken multi leafs no lowering blocks and tired shocks
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Out some more chocs behind your wheels! Hell of a drop. Paul.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:52 PM

thinking about it now...

think my spring are possibly bent at the back end, causing the hackles to atuall hit the frame rail.
maybe my judder is actually the car bouncing on itself when i pull away and the back drops?? is that possible or am i making it up.


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