70 Years Ago .... 16Th - 17Th May

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  1. Laser

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    mk3laserboy Registered Capri Power Member

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    ..there was a small article in todays metro with a pic of 'Just jane'
     
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    them brave souls all them years ago , seen it on news fly past sounded awsome
     
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    Thought there might be something on the telly tonight about it.
    There's a couple on tomorrow night and a few on Saturday.
     
  5. Laser

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    BBC2 Catch up on the whole Ceremony from RAF Scampton
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    Very Moving program
     
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    watched it fran ,spectacular.............................

    :guitar3: :guitar3: :guitar3:
     
  7. Cashy

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    saw a bit that told you something about it early this morning before i had to get out the door on bbc breakfast news, i was intrigued, however been stuck on a shutdown till late tonight so havent heard or seen anything.....drat!.

    This thing with the lancaster bomber in general is haunting me just now.....
     
  8. Laser

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    All here on Iplayer

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0175nh1/Timewatch_Dam_Busters_The_Race_to_Smash_the_German_Dams/

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01sjtzt/The_Dambusters_70_Years_On/


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22554314
     
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    okay mate, i'll visit those when i can :thumbup1:
     
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    ..on BBC2 now, Dam busters special
     
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    just finished watching the 'Dambusters Special; late BBC2 ... reallly good stuff
    there was a discussion in the flight deck of Just Jane, NAAFI & tower in the background ... spine tingle!

    missed everything else tonight, but will hit the iPlayer at the weekend
     
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    Bouncing bombs, I like that, sounds like something a smart bomb would do. Any of these still around? Do they ever show up on eBay? :thumbup1:
     
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    Theres one in the collection at Elvington Air Museum.
     
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    and just finished tonight on ch4
    building the bouncing bomb, hugh hunt replicates the construction and design strategy, making a replica, then doing the drop and hitting the target
    good enough and fun watching the technicalities, but ...
    interviews and background shots at East Kirkby, in and around NX611 'Just Jane'
    absolutely brilliant ...
     
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    The whole worst part of this........................well Radio 2 is a must in the garage yes I am getting older and really don't stand for the beebop of the radio 1, so............young 19 year old in the garage has to put up with my choice n yes its rubbing off..........untill today...................well today radio2 listeners they celebrated in style complete with some class war tunes Dambusters day........so as the working day draws to a close this little voice pipes up......."whats this dambusters all about any way".................do they teach nothing in schools these days???????

    so yes I took great pride in teaching the youngster all about it..............and the reaction..........."holy sh1t"!!
     
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    nice one Trev !
     
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    Hey Trev, I listen to Radi2 every day now... sorry but ther really is no radio substitute ... to listen to anything else while out and about, would require a fair handful of my own CDs... Its been brilliant stuff all week.
    Chris Evans wakes me up in a correctly weighted manner ..
    Methinks there are so many 'road' or 'journey' orientated shows now on this great station.. its a done deal really

    Now if they would only just strangle Jeremy Vine .. chat shows is fine on radio free. Radio 2 is definately the dominant force in BBC productions for working people oot n aboot traveling the nation..
     
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    Ahh yes I think our music choices have met in the past Mr Brown....................certain lengths of threaded rod as subistutes to Air guitar, the funky dance moves and generaly bliddy good fun have once or twice past their paths......and I hope they will again!!
     
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    They learn jack sh*t in school these days Trev. Ask kids today about Churchill and they think he's a stupid fecking dog that sells insurance!!
     
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    An original bouncing bomb in the Barnes Wallis collection at Elvington Air Museum.

    I took this a few years ago... it has since been restored and the collection has been treated to a new dedicated area at the museum.

    Col
     
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    Sadly as stated above, most kids these days don't know of the Dam Busters story and have no idea of the genius that was Barnes Wallis. Very sad indeed. My 3 kids have no choice... they WILL know this stuff :headbang::
     
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    Yes, sad to see that most youngsters today barely know anything about WW2.
    I've been at the Möhne dam, in the late 80's, when doing my military service with the Belgian Army.
    You could still see where the dam was hit and repaired.
    A big 'hat off' to those flyers, going in low level in the night, finding the target and succesfull taking it out.
     
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    You only have to look at most 19-25 year olds today and they cant handle a small hatchback car !! These guys were flying at suicide height in a Lanc over hostile territory ...........

    At the going down of the sun and in the morning ,

    We Will Remember Them ..................
     
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    I was actually at Derwent valley as the Lancaster, spitfire ( only 1 at that point ) and the tornado's flew over, here's a couple of pics I took:

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    Steve
     
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    I'll have that!....thankyou very much Col :thumbup1:

    I should have taken a pic of the one at East Kirkby but it never crossed my mind at the time :duh:

     
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    To be fair I was up at the Cathedral in Lincoln on Friday for the fly past and there were a lot of young people there, it was an amazing sight to see so many people from all walks of life turn out to commemorate a remarkable brave event. The Castle area was packed and all the streets in the area were packed. I also don't think many of us will have wanted to listen to BBC Radio 2 at 19 either; I however cannot stand it and too listen to Radio 2. Some of the young people of today are risking life and limb in foriegn lands so I don't think we should be too hard on them. Times change, people change. Just a thought.
     
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    That thing must take up every spare inch of the bomb bay opening on the plane to get it out!
     
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    No, Gary, the lancs that went on this mission had special framework attached to the underside of the lanc, the bomb bay doors were removed, for want of a better description in a short explanantion.....they attached a wishbone affair on each side of the bomb bay with the cylinder (upkeep) bomb between the wishbones,there was also a drive hydraulic motor that was in the lanc that drove a belt that spun the bomb to a exact rpm,

    extra info...when the bomb aimer pressed the bomb release button (at the predetermined exact height and speed) the wishbones pulled apart outwards and up and the bomb fell, hit the water, and bounced (thanks to the spin) a fair few times and distance before hitting the dam wall and sinking, it sunk to a predetermined depth whereby the pressure fuse ignited the bomb.
     
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    Sounds crafty! Sounds British! Thanks, Steve.... :thumbup1:
     
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    Ohhh......an image to conjur up the imagination below.

    to get to the correct height to let the 'upkeep' bomb drop and do it's job, spotlights were installed at a certain angle on the lanc, when the two beams met that meant they were at the right height.

    note on the lanc closest that the two beams of light from the spotlights on the lanc meet exactly on top of the water, this tells the crew that they are at the correct height to let the bomb drop.

    whereas the other lancs beams of light are not meeting on the water....which means that lanc is too high and has to come down a little yet so their beams meet before let their bomb drop.

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