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  1. SIDEWAYS 3.0 GHIA

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    Unfortunately due to internet access and online banking and some good vodka, I find myself the owner of a 2.8i Special, I'm not going to apologise as I do not dislike the 2.8 engine and the most important bit, NEVER been welded, Woo hoo, really is time warp condition, lots of spares come with the car, I'm sure it will be an experience!!!
     
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    And its another to go on the road , well done, if you like the engine you stick with the engine, we all have our preferences, shall say no more on that matter, but a big congratulations on getting another one on to the numbers of the forum
     
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    no pictures / never happened !!

    haha.. I have 2 friends with 28i Specials, one a D reg, one an E...
    both in much better condition than my Dads 280, which is of no surprise..
    I have always said, and its a long time, if you are convinced you need a newish Capri, and it has to be a 28i, then get a 28iS, before the damned green december drivel that was the 280..
    have fun with it, enjoy, and be happy..

    Oh Aye .. get some pictures up man!
     
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    It's been off the road in a decent dry garage for 27 years, so the attraction was it's so solid, it wasn't cheap, but no cracked dash, no worn bolsters on the 1/2 leather, not messed about with and low miles which are genuine, plus I have a complete 3" performance exhaust lying around for a 2.8, pictures will be on the way, also it's got a 4 spoke RS steering wheel, but I do have the correct wheel in my spares.
     
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    Very nice find and health to enjoy. I have a soft spot for a black 2.8 and somewhat regret the sale of my own.

    Is the reg D545?
     
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    gray, yes to above, deposit paid last night, do you know the car??
     
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    black28i.jpg

    Will post better pics as this was taken from ad, phone was dead, would have liked to have taken some, but only went out to buy a rock and roll bed for my daughters T6!!!
     
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    well I hope you are a happy bunny.. looks great..
    and 'when you get fed up with the 28i thing' a nice wee 302 in that capri will just be quite awesum..
     
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    I don't smoke, I dont drink to excess, so it's a passion that is sometimes out of control, I blame the medication, oh, I can't blame that, I'm not on anything, bugger, well the wife would probably vouch for me being nuts.
     
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    Clockwork Orange Glasgow Subway- Keeping it simple since 1896 Staff Member Moderator

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    way I look at that is - Wife will vouch for you (edit)
    looking at my side, I think you will probably do fine..
    bearing in mind that my own epic is over 11 years now, and probably 10 years doing nothing !!
    OK .. I admit that i have built a new garage at home, not finished yet, but a wee route forward in my journey..

    So you with yours.. lead on MacDuff..
     
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    a good solid example is not easy to come by and looking at it, its not going to take a lot to recommission it, good find , good buy, good example, good grief even i like it
     
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    When I got to the owners house, it was jacked up, so it was jacket off and get underneath it, very minimal surface rust, straight away I knew it would be just a case of agreeing a price, it's wether to fully restore it or just fully service and clean the injection system, swop the pink relay, set of new tyres, new exhaust and enjoy it, your thoughts and comments are awaited.
     
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    Included in the spares 2 brand new Ford inner wing splash guards, never been fitted, lots of new switches and brand new pedal rubbers and too much to look through, paid for in full, collection Saturday, can't wait.
     
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    looks like a really nice haul.. Well Done
     
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    Went back last night to free off the rear drums, but first issue was to get the OS rear wheel removed, l took with me a very long 8x8 piece of wood, normal trick, undo all wheel nuts, leave one on a few threads and slide block of wood into the base of the wheel, no chance, luckily seller had a blow lamp, so warmed up the centre of the axle for a few minutes, one sharp tap with the wood and the wheel was off. Then a few good taps on the drum with a copper faced mallet and the drum was free. NS didn't need doing, wheel rotated, luckily it was cold last night or I may have broke sweat, which is unheard of.
    Owner said his son was slightly annoyed with him, because he thought he would be getting the Capri, also he said someone had offered a lot more money for it, without even seeing it. I think l paid enough for it, without "stealing" it so to speak.
    First job will be to remove the fuel tank and remove all the fuel injection. Having had one fibre gear fail on me, I wonder if they detoriate with just sitting for so many years, may need to look into steel or aluminium upgrade.
     
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    Would definitely change the original timing gears for the aluminium & steel combo ;)

    Hope it all goes well on Saturday
     
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    LF is there a supplier you can recommend?
     
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    Didn't realise owner had put 2 Bilstein legs on the back of my truck as I was freeing off the rear drum, so more spares, I'll have to catalogue everything or I'll forget what there is.
     
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    Thanks LF for above.
     
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    Sideways i found the steel were stronger but were a bit louder than the fibre but at least i never threw any teeth with the steel unlike the fibre one
     
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    I blew two Essex gears, the horrible early Bakelite version.. mini-fibres everywhere, what a mess to clean out, almost like a HazMat recovery process, the sh!t got everywhere..
    I blew the later steel & rubber one not long after.. a lot easier to clear up.. but it was 2 full sets of valves that got bent and all the nonsense involved in the fix that creates the woe..
    I hear the Alloy gears are quieter, but I just fitted the steel one (from Burtons - 1987!) at that time they never really bothered about changing the crank gear.. technically incorrect of course..
    However the last time I saw that engine it was over 300k miles running sweet in a triumph Stag .. so maybe not such a bad fix..

    these guys get a good rep for engine parts - both essex & cologne.. http://www.cologneengines.com/pistons.htm
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    i had the solid steel with out the rubber pulled like a train sold it to a guy for his scimitar car gave up before the engine and from what ive been told the engine is now in a MK1 granada coupe still going strong, but thats only what ive been told and not seen
     
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    Well that was an interesting day, the truck I was going to borrow with winch was broke, so borrowed a mates flat bed trailer, BUT no winch, so me thinks, well the Capri rolls how hard can it be to push onto a trailer, very near impossible, so ratchet strapped it on, only problem was every man and his dog wanted to talk about Capris, then it decided to rain a fair bit, then on the motorway the bloody gritter lorry was out!!!
    It's now sitting in its new home now, stripped down in the next few weeks.

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    doesn't look the worst from that angle .. .. o_O
     
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    ouch know how you feel i was out for a drive a couple months ago, totally dry roads forcast of a slight frost the following morning, and lo and behold a f***ing gritter coming at me and the death rattle of sodium chloride machine gunning the poor old Cappa Grrrrrrrrr
     
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    Like that a lot. Great find. Looks rather good in black too! When I bought my 3.0 Ghia many years ago I used the exact same purchasing technique of internet access, online banking and copious amounts of booze - it seems to work well :D:D
     
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    And so the adventure begins :)

    Good luck with her ;)
     
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    Nice find, even under the dust you can see she looks straight down the sides.
    For once a true barn find something that ebay lacks!
     
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    It's not perfect by any means, but it's got the makings of being a really good one, how I wish it was a runner, it will be soon!!!
    I've told the previous owner to get on here as I have started a thread about it.
    And it sits rather well in that picture, also got a brand new axle anti tramp kit, brand new Ford electric aerial, new over riders to be found, and the original steering wheel is being elusive.
     
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    good base to start
     
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    It had to be done, I removed the Special decal from the boot lid and just gave that area a few mins with some compound.
    Car has a Gemini alarm fitted, looks like it is spliced into the fuel pump relay and into the hazard harness, don't know where else it goes, but I did hook up a battery to see if it had life, fuel pump not priming, does crank over with coil disconnected, I assume as soon as you turn on ignition the fuel pump should switch on? Tank off tomorrow, if I get a spare hour, see how the insides have faired. IMG_20210412_151231.jpg
     
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    the fuel pump relay 'sometimes' gives a priming burst when you switch the ignition on, then switches off..
    in order to keep the pump running, the engine must either be running, or being cranked over.. the relay monitors the negative side of the coil, same as the re-counter..
    no pulse from the coil.. no fuel !
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    As a footnote - standard fuse in this system is a 20A Yellow fuse
     
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    Cheers CO, that makes sense about the pump, probably didn't help by having the coil disconnected, but I didn't want it bursting into life, pretty sure the tank is bone dry, from the outside it looks good, but l don't want glue going into the injection system hence tomorrow's job.
    Having not investigated thoroughly, the alarm system flashes the hazards and there is a LED on the dash, flashing it will not crank, press the black button on the fob and it will crank, hopefully it's not spaghetti junction under the dashboard. Would be nice to keep the alarm if it isn't completely junk.
     
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    Tank removed, swilled out, no rust or grot, refitted, everything I can see is connected up, the car cranks over fine, one of the relays clicks on and off, but car doesn't fire up, I'm going to put some fuel into the plenum, don't know if it's the alarm causing this, but it does seem to be a pretty good installation.
    • Went through the books previous owner gave me, it's a bit ominous that there's 3 on fuel injection!!! IMG_20210414_143733.jpg IMG_20210414_143752.jpg IMG_20210414_143821.jpg IMG_20210414_143809.jpg IMG_20210414_143840.jpg
     
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    A few ££££ worth of manuals there :)

    Good news that the tank is clean, well worth the effort of removing & checking, now you have piece of mind its all good ;)
     
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    three out of those in my collection
     
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    read it and take note...
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    hey Mr Sideways ..
    I will pass you a PDF copy of the Ford 28i supplemental manual
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    Thanks CO, I have read a fair bit tonight, spoke to the previous keeper and he has advised getting rid of the alarm system as it is linked into the fuel pump relay and is probably 25 years old, so tomorrow that's my plan, hopfully have some time spare to get to the bottom of the non running.
     
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    Gently wiggled the connectors off the pump and put 12v to it, theres a bit of a spark, but pump not pumping. Next door to me are vehicle harness specialists and the original owner of the business had a look at the wiring, he thinks it will be easy to remove and put back to standard, but if the pump is buggered, it's never going to start. I'm sure this had been asked before, but where's a good place to get a pump from?
    And thanks again CO, because I would have thought black was the earth on the pump, but brown is.
     
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    One thing to try with the pump is to swap the connections over and see if it will turn in the other direction, short bursts of ignition only of course! If it moves, swap the connections back and you might be lucky.....
    I have managed to unstick a couple of fuel pumps this way, not a permanent solution but will suffice to get the car to run for now maybe?
     
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    If your after a pump I have a few original NOS ones that are the correct size as the new ones are smaller than the originals and don't fit the rubber mount without packing.
     
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    When I removed the tank, I disconnected it from the pump by undoing the clip nearest the tank, luckily today, l removed the pump, the short piece of fuel pipe was half blocked with black glue, so it's done me a favour the pump being seized, as I missed this, less haste, more speed, I have a spare pump, it works but it is 38 years old, so if the car runs, I'll still go through the rest of the system, I have at least 3 gallon of Shells finest, with the hose off, no fuel comes out the bottom of the tank, is this correct, I know it's a pumped system, but still would have thought fuel would have come out??
     
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    A 80's modification luckily reversed back to standard with no damage. Bit awkward getting the tacho one off, but it came off with a bit of gentle persuasion. IMG_20210422_141459.jpg
     
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    Here's some pics of the alarm system fitted, wires everywhere and plenty of fuses, I have found inside one of the boxes a disconnected dry wire, so this may have been the problem why the previous owner had trouble getting the car to run, he himself suggested getting rid of the alarm, the 2 boxes were just placed under the dash and I suppose it was before heat shrink. IMG_20210422_145304.jpg IMG_20210422_145855.jpg IMG_20210422_151502.jpg
     
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    yeuch. . . my favourite hate ..
    probably wont help much your fuel pump control relay being in bits as well..
    I would be un-taping, tracing, removing, and reconnecting the cars wires as they should be..

    also looks - so far as I can tell - the radio speaker fader system has been attacked as well..
     
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    You are right CO, the fader system has been attacked, this according to the rear window sticker, was a professional install!!! It's only wires, how hard can it be, I can always ask for your help, which will be invaluable.
     
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    SIDEWAYS 3.0 GHIA Registered Capri Power Member

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    Good job l took out the fuel sender, got an assortment of c spanners from doing multiple coil over swops, warmed up the outside of the sender with a heat gun on low setting for a couple of mins and voila out she came, years of not being ran doesn't necessarily mean a good thing, I'll post a pic tomorrow as I was covered in oil and crap as per usual. Stale petrol also stinks, couple of showers and still stinking.
     
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    caprinerd Registered Capri Power Member

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    dont taste nice either prefer leaded to unleaded and prefer new to old as well
     
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    SIDEWAYS 3.0 GHIA Registered Capri Power Member

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    Pics of sender. Second picture, I did scratch at it gently and I do believe it may clean up, sender arm was seized, but a soaking of WD40 got it moving freely. Anyone used white vinegar to clean a sender, or will it damage it? IMG_20210426_105954.jpg IMG_20210426_120245.jpg
     
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    SIDEWAYS 3.0 GHIA Registered Capri Power Member

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    IMG_20210429_144317.jpg Found the reciept for the after market stereo, that's some serious money for a tape deck, got no aerial so couldn't try it out and wife has thrown out all the old cassette tapes, bugger!!
     
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    SIDEWAYS 3.0 GHIA Registered Capri Power Member

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    I did sand down the steering wheel with 600 wet and dry and re treated it as it had lost it's colouring, no pics, as I decided to mangle the end of my finger and it's surprising how such a small part of your body can throb so much.
     
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    caprinerd Registered Capri Power Member

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    know all about throbbing mine was my head, and also my hand when i decided to mod my knuckle with a 4" grinder, oh how i laugh at that one i can tell you, as for the head that had a world of issues i never want to relive,
     
  58. SIDEWAYS 3.0 GHIA

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    IMG_20210501_162956.jpg IMG_20210501_162912.jpg Put the passenger front bumper corner back on, don't know why it was removed, there's a few spare caps, the passenger wing does not fit correctly, l re set the bonnet, which has helped alignment slightly, but to satisfy my OCD, I'll probably carefully unpick the wing and place it where it should be.
     
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    caprinerd Registered Capri Power Member

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    take it off hammer and dolly and re fit patern wings are never the greatest of fits but that is an exceptionally large gap
     
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    Pretty sure wing is genuine Ford, just think a blind man aligned it or miss aligned it, it should be easy enough to resolve, there doesn't appear to be any inner wing damage or chassis damage, wings on my Ghia fit a lot better.
     
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    SIDEWAYS 3.0 GHIA Registered Capri Power Member

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    In between repairing a crappy Corsa, concentric slave cylinder destroyed after 20,000 miles, I polished a little piece of the Special. IMG_20210702_160254.jpg
     
  62. Clockwork Orange

    Clockwork Orange Glasgow Subway- Keeping it simple since 1896 Staff Member Moderator

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    now that looks not too bad.. Nicely does it..
     
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    SIDEWAYS 3.0 GHIA Registered Capri Power Member

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    I should pull my finger out, but with earning a living, my Capris don't get the attention they deserve. As much as I enjoy bodywork, l may pass on this one and get a pro to paint it, black does require a certain level of patience, whereas l have just done a bit of bodywork on the daily and you can't tell.
     

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