EV Capri

Discussion in 'Capri Chit Chat' started by Laser Capri, 9 December 2020.

  1. Laser Capri

    Laser Capri Registered Capri Power Member

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    Not sure if anyone else saw the news on Chevrolet recently announcing a crate EV motor to replace your Internal Combustion Engine. Link Below if you haven't. Bolts up to your existing transmission which is easier for install maybe but may bring it's own problems in the long run.

    https://www.thedrive.com/news/37354...ke-electric-drivetrain-swaps-easier-than-ever

    I love the sound of the V6 Capri engines in particular but it looks like the future will be electric and with that being the case I could be tempted to swap a pinto for an EV lump. Especially as it will become harder to use petrol vehicles in the future, plus 100% torque at 1rpm is difficult to argue with. Looks like we are still a few more years off these being affordable for most of us and having the range but I can imagine converting over to EV at some stage for my 4 cylinder.

    Is anyone else tempted by this or is anyone actually doing a conversion?
     
  2. caprimk3

    caprimk3 Richard Capri Power Member

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    I'm more intrested in the Zero emissions fuel that Porsche develops now.
    The article I did read yesterday stated it will be safe for older cars.

    Firstly it's ment to power Porsche race cars, but will be available to the public later.

    This also means we can keep our old engines still, and if this takes off, new gas engies will still be developed and sold.
    So maybe there is an alternative to EV cars after all!

    And the new fuel is synthetic so it does not realy on fossil parts to be used.
     
  3. Crash & Burn

    Crash & Burn Registered Capri Power Member

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    I'd be convinced to use synthetic fuel if it's not used as a way to freely invade our wallets. EV conversion, I agree I'd do it sooner with a 4-cylinder than a nice V-6, but the technology isn't competitive or mainstream enough yet to be affordable. I think as much effort has gone into developing the tech, an equal or greater amount of effort has been done over the years to condition buyers to acquiesce to it. I have trouble honouring that. We need something we can afford. That story about the 8,000 GBP battery was no joke.
     
  4. clicon357

    clicon357 Registered Capri Power Member

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    Something I often think about. My S shell sitting there in the garage came sans engine. The time I'll take to do it, an EV conversion will be dirt cheap!

    I believe Aston Martin do a "slip in" EV drive train that allows easy change back to the original running gear.

    Let's face it, if money is no option you can have your Capri EV powered tomorrow:

    https://www.electricclassiccars.co.uk/

    Worth checking out Fully Charged on YouTube presented by Robert Llewellyn.
     
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  5. Laser Capri

    Laser Capri Registered Capri Power Member

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    Yes the big thing right now is the price for the EV conversions. Plus i think with the technology as it is now, and the range you will get, i would be pretty gutted to spend 20k converting to electric only to find in 5-10 years time you could have spent half that and probably go twice as far. It will be interesting though once a few capri conversions have been done to see how they layout the electric motors and batteries in place of engine, fuel tank etc.

    The synthetic fuel is interesting too, hadnt heard of that.
     
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    oldschoolfords Registered Capri Power Member

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    I literally can't think of anything worse than EVs in general. I get what they're trying to do but I think its all pish.
     
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    If you watch those Fully Charged videos on YouTube, in one (the Range Rover or maybe the Porsche episode) they have on the bench, battery packs from the earliest I think Prius right up to the Tesla. Quite impressive how size has come down and capacity gone up. The electric motors are pretty efficient so I imagine could remain in any conversion. If the battery packs or dare I say fuel cells become smaller then it's a straight swap.

    I'd love the cash to do an EV Capri maybe with polycarb windows, fibreglass bonnet, wings, tailgate (doors?) for some weight saving. Or maybe a carbon fibre shell over a space frame.
     
  8. Clockwork Orange

    Clockwork Orange Glasgow Subway- Keeping it simple since 1896 Staff Member Moderator

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    IMHO.. full EV is the wrong way to go, duel fuel is the more sensible option, IC to support EV to ensure as near full range capability, and no strain on the National Grid .. what’s the point of trying to clean up vehicle emissions at the cost of trying to generate & distribute power thru the grid. It can barely cope now, if another 30-50% of homes then try an additional 16-32A charging capacity then generation capacity will collapse..
    I think Toyota & Lexus are leading the game at present..
    Still don’t fancy all the restrictions that EV technology places on us at this time
     
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    they keep on about the no carbon foot print but to produce the batteries leave a bigger carbon foot print than running a car for 20 years, also as we all know a battery has a shelf life and as yet they have no way of getting rid of these batteries, so not environmentally friendly at all, i know a little about these as i was working for a company (Equipmake) who were producing and designing these systems for J&R Ariel RR and a few other car companies, Lotus asked and were turned down, the system for an EV are good but untill they suss how to sort the batteries its a no from me
     
  10. 1970 sean

    1970 sean Established Member Capri Power Member

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    so,, what about a hydrogen conversion ...??
     
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    Caprinerd, I'm all for lower carbon emissions however the point you make about the batteries seems to always get swept under the carpet. It's hard for the average Joe like me to know what is political point scoring over EV's and what is the truth about the overall carbon emission benefit.
    Perhaps restoring old cars is the answer to reduced overall emissions! :)
     
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    SIDEWAYS 3.0 GHIA Registered Capri Power Member

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    A bit like when the government told us all to buy diesels, it would be kinder on the planet, what a load of bollo**s.
    The materials and process used to manufacture EV batteries and then at end of life to dispose of them doesn't stack up, but no doubt on there paperwork it all looks rosie.
    I'm all for change, but this is way too late, close down China and India if we are looking at reducing pollution and saving the world.
     
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    clicon357 Registered Capri Power Member

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    Point of source hydrogen production as in Chain Reaction is the answer. No nasty gas tanks to explode! :)

    THIS could be one answer...if you live somewhere sunny:

    https://www.greenmatters.com/p/aptera-how-does-it-work
     
  14. caprinerd

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    Again great in principle but will still run into the issues or replacement batteries and disposal of old ones, hydro systems have been about for years, a water tank and a couple of flacks added to produce a gas which is burnt giving zero emissions but with the heat of the gas will come adverse wearing to an engine, i installed a system a few years back in a friends kitcar, running a 1.6 xflow we took the head off after a year of running and the top of the pistons were severely damaged from it, he`s not a boy racer but a guy in his 70`s so poodles about and goes to car shows in it, i rebuilt the engine for him using new pistons from ford(his choice) and he is doing about 400 miles a year now
    lets see what Porche have to offer with this new fuel
     
  15. clicon357

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    Erm...no, I'm on about a "simple" point of production hydroxy gas generator. The issue is the quantity of gas you can produce (too little) unless you can improve the efficiency of the process. If you could, then bingo, the Holy Grail. Issues include the furring up of the system electrodes and / or depletion of any sacrificial anode.
     

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