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  1. Finn

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    Roger went through my paperwork , Fabricage is no longer at the address I went to, and the phone number is out of use. May still be trading under that name, so try the internoodle. All the paper templates are long gone so I am afraid I have been as much help as a Chocolate Teapot. Paul. P.S. Just had a peep, they are still going, put Fabricage in and you will find them.
     
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    Thank you for trying though
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    Will have a squint through cheers bud
    Where did you get your car jig?
     
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    A friend, Fenbilly from Wisbech and myself made it. He fabbed I welded. Its a one off, had 4 Capris on it, including Stuballs Beast From the East. If you wanted to ride over and run a tape over it so you can replicate, let me know. Paul.
     
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    That sounds a good idea to me Mr Finn
    will sort something out Mate
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    Don't forget the plans you had drawn up for your jig. I still have them here if you don't and can email them to anyone who wants them.
     
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    p....lease forward them to me may be then i can get to work properly instead of laying on my back to sort floor out
     
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    PM me your email and I'll go do it now.
     
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    Clockwork Orange Electrical ??? what like .. bzztt Feck !!! Staff Member Moderator

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    o_O who are you?
     
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    Clockwork Orange Electrical ??? what like .. bzztt Feck !!! Staff Member Moderator

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    what kind of file is it Mr ??
    you could possibly upload to this thread ... it will take PDFs
     
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    What a very nice man you are, I had forgotten all about that. Paul.
     
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    Another brilliant suggestion. Could post it as a stand alone thread?Paul.
     
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    Once you have used a roll over you will never want to use anything else, makes the job so easy. Paul.
     
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    That's the second time you've forgotten all about it!
     
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    I am 69, dementia is approaching faster each day! Paul.
     
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    Use to have one when i was restoring for a living, but the ex sold everything as i had no where to store it, i lost all my tools and equipment because of her, i know how good these are Mr Finn
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    What a nice lady, hopefully you have a better model now!
     
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    Much better, infact she wants me to go back into it again and even said she will help fund it, my ex left me with 10k of debt, which ive nearly finished paying off, she also lost the house and now lives in a rented flat and is on the breadline, Karma is a biatch
     
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    Fate is a wonderful thing, I do believe it is all written down by a big chap with a Halo, its how you deal with whats written that matters. Paul.
     
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    I'm just finishing a job involving a woman scorned and a 5lb lump hammer, what a mess, last part of the jigsaw arrived yesterday.
     
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    @Clockwork Orange , if you PM me your email I can send you the PDF jig drawings @Finn had done and maybe you can make them a sticky somewhere?
     
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    just did that young Man .. thankyou ..
     
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    Well done you two. Paul.
     
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    Just had a troll through, can't find it. Point me in the right direction please. Paul.
     
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    still not recieved yet ???
     
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    no problem will check in a bit to see if its through and let you know
     
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    and did ... Lovely drawings too.. you'll never lose them again, your signature !!
     
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    got it many thanks and thanks for making it a permanent awesome
     
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    TBH, the drawings that Clicon357 supplied were really excellent, I couldn't resist making a JPG to show in the main body... but those PDFs are really good ...
    When you download them the quality is simply superb ..
    well done Finn & Fenbilly for the construction
    well done Clive for posting the drawings


    Clive also sent some pics of other methods ..
    I have posted Finns pics & drawings first, simply because that was the ask ..
    However 2 other 'methods' are also worth a look ...
    an excellent write-up from a chap in USA, and some pics by a guy in NL in the MG circle ... that I thought was very clever ...
     
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    have downloaded but not checked as yet
     
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    Not that I'm a slacker by any means...;)

    I started drawing this in 2008! I basically copied the NBN Tilter design by measuring photographs. "Driven" by a long threaded rod. The drawing, and amassing some steel etc is as far as it got:

    jig.JPG

    There's a guy in the Netherlands (I think), Peter who is into v8 MGs. This is the COPY he made:
     

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    That looks pretty good, saves having to use engine lifts as mine does to get it up to the correct height. Would need to look at something to stop the roller sliding back down to the stop. Paul.
     
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    The long threaded rod stops it. Looks like they're winding this one up with a breaker bar. Cordless drill would probably work. I ran my drawing past a structural engineer mate in New Zealand when I was looking at it. Pretty important to get the thread right as in the pitch to lessen the effort. I'll dig his comments out later.

    nbn.bmp.cf.jpg

    Another option and a route I make go is one using farm jacks as I have two here:

    car+upside+down+11119643601.jpg

    Plans here:

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/stolen-tech-make-your-own-rotisserie-pics-plans.279265/
     
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    That does look pretty dam good! First time I put A666 on my jig I had to wear double bicycle clips! just in case we were out by a couple of mil, all done by eye to a great extent! Non of these jigs are beyond competent fabricators and welders, but I do mean competent, if you can't read the drawings, and you can't weld, get somebody who can. Paul.
     
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    I've just remembered! Your design isn't adjustable for centre of gravity is it? Some can be perfectly balanced and pretty much rotated with one hand.

    Can you let yours go and it stays there or will it "fall"?

    The write up on the MK2 mania deluxe spit explains pretty well what I'm getting at!

    "unique loading / levelling means perfectly balanced rotation"

    "lowered centre of gravity making it very stable"

    http://leonbirchall.co.uk/jigs-spits/deluxe.html
     
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    Mine does go slightly heavy/light as you rotate the shell, nothing major, but I always had both hands on the shell for safety. And because of the multi hole disc you can do it in stages as you reposition. Good point though. Paul.
     
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    Found the email from the guy who copied the NBN Tilter.

    Tbh it's the long stud scares me. I'm not sure what the steel grade is of mild steel stud generally, 4.8 maybe? I'd like to think 8.8 minimum for this. I've a length of M24 x 3mm pitch studding scored for nothing here and put by.

    "Hello Clive,

    The thread is a critical issue. I first planned to use trapezoidal screw thread but calculation showed that it was not strong enough or would get a to big dimension. I don't have the rotator in my garage but it is in a lockup. I found some notes which say M20 fine thread but i am not 100% sure. The required thread depends on the weight of the car. I based it on a maximum weight of 1400kg. It also depends on the the horizontal angle the main bar is on and the starting height of lifting because this is the critical situation for the thread.
    My lock up is not so far away so if you have more questions, i can check the thread and answer other questions.

    I made some remarks on your drawing which is attached:
    1- i would advise to fabrikate a bar which reduces bending tension.
    2- this is the critical angle i mentioned in the thread issue
    3- i made some flanges to dismant the rotator. It reduces storage room needed when the rotator is not used
    4- i would advise to put that bolt a little lower because this reduce the critical knuckle length.
    5- i used 2 ball bearings as wheels so it doesn't need to slide over the bar
    6- i made 4 wheel under the rotator which is very usefull. I made a device to pull them up when not needed.
    Regards
    Peter"

    20200329_102330.jpg

    I should add Peter thinks he used an M20 fine pitch thread. Generally when you buy lengths of studding here you buy Metric coarse. Fine pitch stuff can come in very pricey. I've for instance some M24 x 3mm stud (a 3m length) lying around. If I could get 2mm pitch it'd take less effort to wind it up.
     
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