Wheel Cleaner

Discussion in 'Capri Chit Chat' started by rossored86, 29 August 2016.

  1. rossored86

    rossored86 Registered Capri Power Member

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    Found this product on Amazon

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00XFKHIQ6/ref=cfb_at_prodpg

    I had some like it many years ago from a mate in the valeting business and once used could never get more --then found this stuff --the smell is exact and does the same job.. it nips on your hands so wear sensible kit .. and read the instructions as to dilution --9 quid is tons cheaper than halfrauds and for a better product.

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    MarkW Registered Capri Power Member

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    Best stuff I have ever used is Distilled Vinegar about 30p from Tesco.
     
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    As its acid based just make sure you wash it off thoroughly! Just use Iron fallout remover on my wheels at the moment, non-acidic/destructive and gets rid of all the brake dust thats been engrained in etc. Can pop over one day to show you if you're interested?
     
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    rossored86 Registered Capri Power Member

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    Im in Stoke Holy Cross mate -- tea is always on the go..PM when you are ready or i cancan come to you

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    rossored86 Registered Capri Power Member

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    Im in Stoke Holy Cross mate -- tea is always on the go..PM when you are ready or i cancan come to you

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    Pauly.22 Registered Capri Power Member

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    Devils blood is quite good for wheels.
     
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    I'm only 1 village along from you (roughly) so will let you know! :thumbup1:/>

    Aye, Devils Blood is a similar product (though i thought it was devils breath, due to the smell??). They both stink when applied though! Well, I dont find it too bad, but it keeps the wife off the Driveway :D/>:D/>:p/>
     
  8. Daz-RSK

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    Ah, the old wheel cleaner topic - which is best ? :D/>/>

    What I have mentioned before on many forums is that just go along with what works for you. If it works well, you believe it is doing something, that's fine and the most simple way. Just carry on! :thumbup1:/>/>


    But to actually get under the skin of this one (pardon the pun) and to get a little more technical, what exactly are you applying and why ?

    Debris (for want of a better word) that falls on anything, but where you think "ooohhh...that needs cleaning", if you understand the certain qualities, then you can fight "the fire with the right water" (for want of an explanation).

    Sorry people - going to get a little technical here. It helps if you have a degree of (in) chemistry knowledge here. Debris, like many things, has a pH value, from 1 - 14. For those who don't know, purified water is pH7 on the pH scale, dead centre. As you move down the scale towards 0, this becomes more acidic - pH 1 is extremely acidic. Up the scale, becomes more alkaline - pH 14 is extremely alkaline. When something is alkaline, it is normally inorganic (like scaling / calcium deposits/ brake dust even). When it is acidic, it normally is more likely to have been formed from proteins (bit more life / organic) like grease and so on.

    Why is any of this important ? The cleaning agent that you use works most effectively by bringing the pH to 7, dead centre, typically. Therefore, fighting an acidic substance with acid not only goes against that theme, but also becomes quite dangerous to the item that you are cleaning, because all that you are doing is adding acid to an already acidic substance. Extremely acidic pH is corrosive, cannot be handled. A 50% solution of Hydrofluoric acid can kill you if inhaled directly or is spilled on you. You won't feel in on the skin as it is after the calcium inside you, like your bones. Shakey stuff now. This acid is used to clean concrete but just because HF is at one end of the scale, doesn't mean the rest of them can be handled liberally. They all have they dark side. Strong alkaline may not have these same "qualities", but is just as dangerous.

    But the point is that alkaline should be used to attack an acidic surface debris in the same way that acid should be used on an alkaline debris. A strong alkaline does not attack an already alkaline surface. So if you keep adding that cleaner, you might be going the wrong direction. This is why you clean your sinks with an acidic based substance and your oven with an alkaline. Cross the 2 and you won't get very far - also looking silly in the process by applying your sink cleaner to your oven.

    OK, so with this blurb out of the way - what deposits are on your wheels, what should you be using and why is it dangerous to use the wrong stuff ?

    The issue you have here is that there are all sorts of combinations of pH debris on your wheels, therefore, there probably is no one cleaner that does the job really well. But most of the stuff you have on there is organic, like grease, mud and rubbish from the road, with the odd bit of hard inorganic substance, like brake dust.

    Me personally, I have used acidic based cleaners for years and never got that great results. They get the brake dust off. But as for everything else, they seem to struggle. The substance I use today is.....shock horror.....Mr Muscle. Just running with strange things to clean a car, someone mentioned vinegar above. Nothing wrong with that, but can you see a theme ? Household products used for the car. The reason is a good one - a quick wander down the Tesco's household cleaning aisle actually saves you £££ than going for the latest super duper Halfords aisle and cleaning stuff is just made of certain substances, dressed up in a flashy or not so flashy name and bottle. I do buy Auto Glym, Macguires etc stuff but it always seems so dear for what you get.

    I seem to spray on the Mr Muscle when the debris is a bit thick, leave it for 2 mins and wash off. Fantastic stuff and not that dear - although one of the dearer products down the grocer's store aisle. You won't have body corrosion from this (yours, not the car) and as long as you wash it off your skin quite quickly, you'll have a strong cleaner that doesn't kill you.

    But this really becomes a subjective thing and we each know what is best for ourselves. :thumbup1:/>/>
     
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    From most of the ads offering Capris for sale here, I think most owners just sell their car when it gets dirty, rather than bother cleaning it. :cigar:
     
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    Mr Muscle it is then...im definitely trying this out.
     
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    As I always say when the stuff I post up here/anywhere, giving some advice, especially when the substance / impact is strong - just try it on a small part of the wheel and don't keep it there for long. Then work within the what you know. So work upwards (longer duration / more surface area), once when you see the results.

    In fairness, Mr Muscle being a stong alkali will not be as hard on the wheels as a strong acid. But you don't want it on your hands for long and it is not good if it come into contact with thin-ish rubber. So I don't mean tyres - but be careful around the brakes with the seals and any other rubber component near the wheels that would suffer - don't liberally spray it everywhere, I mean.

    I have been using this stuff for about 5 years and seen no adverse affect. But be careful when you start out.


    If anyone wants to go the acid route, again be careful. But coke will clean your wheels up as well. Vinegar will do so, to a degree. Cillit bang is quite good for bugs and dead animals (insects).


    Suddenly Tescos / Morrisons has become your car detailing shop :D/>/>
     
  12. rossored86

    rossored86 Registered Capri Power Member

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    Great points....

    But the point i was really making was the cost.....

    5 ltrs for a tenner --when other similar cleaners are fancy packed and cost fortunes --easily described as rip offs.

    The comments about knowing the chemical required against the muck / substance you are trying to remove is also correct and wise words.

    Likewise --mixing chemicals can have a neutral or horrendous poor result or even aftermath.

    A classic training thing i have used is (and seems a strange analogy ) but is factual....

    - Bleach will only whiten lime scale in a toilet --but the scale still remains and then re soils easily with deposits.
    -Acid toilet cleaner removes lime scale but does not whiten (or disinfect)
    -Using each in appropriate combination --will remove lime scale and then whiten and disinfect.
    -But mix both together in the bowl and you will probably choke to death --(chlorine gas).

    So now capri lovers --you are professional toilet cleaners ;) lolol lolol lolol :wtf1: :headbang:: :rolleyes: :stunned:
     

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