1986 Laser - Charlie update 19 September

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  1. kenny james

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    Hi Folks, as most folk in CP are aware I bought Charlie. I am well pleased with the car but it does need a little work. After its arrival I parked it up and left it whilst I decided what I should do with it. The car sat in the rain, sleet and snow until I had a couple of days off and could give him a quick look over. To my surprise the car fired up on the second turn of the key and I managed a quick drive around the yard.

    I decided the first thing I will do is the interior. I have stripped the skins off the back seat and sent them to Aldridge who I hope will re-trim them in grey cloth. I also have a pair of Escort RS1600i seats and have ordered skins from Aldridge to re-trim them. The backs will be the same cloth as the fronts. The material is light grey and should match the plastics. I believe this style of seat did appear in a German special edition Capri Turbo.

    When I get the skins I will update the thread. I have no intention of changing the running gear or colour but may consider some body mods and a change of wheels. My main aim will be to keep it useable.
     
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    And so it begins..
    Good Luck Kenny..
    I wish you well and anticipate an interesting diary... :cool:
     
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    Great! been looking forward to this, big time! Take some pics? Paul.
     
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    That set of 5 rims you have would fetch a good price, all very decent and all with centre caps if you wanted to sell them.
     
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    Sell them!!! No chance I’m a fully paid up hoarder
     
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    good to see the start of your build thread Kenny
     
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    I got the seat skins back from Aldridge, as the rears are custom made I thought it best to start with them, started with this 7253C66C-B5E3-4EC2-8CEC-46C3F3449C71.jpeg and ended up with this 344BD5B4-1008-4649-B805-345FD1FA5373.jpeg C7DC3BCC-BF7B-4EF1-8456-FBC04A30BF8D.jpeg 082BC4F3-B07B-479B-B85F-B26E41195092.jpeg
     
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    My god, they look amazing.
     
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    These are the fronts, hopefully I will get them covered Monday/Tuesday. 3387824F-8BA1-4ABD-AFD3-3246C1C83757.jpeg
     
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    That's going to be a pretty tasty interior, nice one.
     
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    Its great to see the start of Charlie's rebirth! Hope this thread will be picture heavy as there has been a lot of interest in Charlie over the years. The Torch has been passed. Finn.
     
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    Managed to get the seat backs finished, the base’s need webbing which I should have at the weekend 2B818AFE-AAE1-4F9D-88FE-4204CF0E584C.jpeg 02475CC5-53C5-4635-B976-226783E38CC8.jpeg F4CD1369-238E-4852-8634-8A1FDA1A52F3.jpeg BC464CC3-8EFA-4246-B8B9-5D6322970883.jpeg
    The drivers seat back had a damaged bolster but this was an easy repair using old foam, Evostick and cutting and shaping. The bottom of the seat frame has what I call dragon claws for holding the seat skin down, rusty wee spikes that I always catch my hand on, this time was no exception. Would like to have got them finished but will update again at the weekend - if the webbing arrives. Every bit of hair and dust sticks to the seats but that won’t be a problem when they are fitted.
     
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    Lovely job! Finn.
     
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    That’s a smashing job done Kenny
     
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    Rs1600i seats are beautiful they look great in a Capri my car had them in 15 years ago
     
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    Seats now finished 67C93C23-93BB-438B-B1B6-CE8E44F47CB4.jpeg E2231CB2-E442-4BB5-9E0A-523C177ECF99.jpeg
     
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    You should have done a tutorial on them, because you obviously know what you are doing, top result.
     
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    A lot better than the ones he left here with! Great job.
     
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    Thanks for all the replies, greatly appreciated.

    Charlie starts first turn of the key even after sitting for weeks and is a great basis for a rolling project.

    I would like to remove the Laser cloth from the door cards an insert the grey cloth used on the seats but I have no idea how to do this.

    I have my body kit, wheels and wings and will start the next round of upgrades in a couple of weeks. I will add images as I go along.

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    I feel like I have been chosen for "Long Lost Family" Watching you breath new life into Charlie is amazing. Do you think I could have Davina McCall for the house call rather than Nick? Finn.
     
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    “I would like to remove the Laser cloth from the door cards an insert the grey cloth used on the seats but I have no idea how to do this.

    Quite straightforward really, the metal edging around the cloth inserts on Ghia, Injection, LS, Laser and Late S doorcards are held on with tangs that you bend back and lift off, the material is stuck on so careful removal sees it come off, trim your RS material to the same size as the material you have just removed , spray adhesive to hold it in place and refit the metal trims. Violà!

    Seeing your seats come together as well as they have, (great job!) reminds me of a set of Escort RS Turbo seats I saw in a German Capri that had been trimmed with LS blue checked inserts and grey leather-like bolsters and backs, looked amazing!
     
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    Thanks Finn, hope your not to shocked when you see what happens next. SWMBO loves the colour and so do I so that will stay and I still have no plans to change any of the running gear but the body needs a refresh and I would like it done before the summer.
     
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    Thanks Stevo, I will remove the rear door cards and have a go.
     
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    ooh wow.. you got one with rear doors, I only ever seen one of them !!
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    The repair panels I sent up with Charlie will be put to good use!
     
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    Very good co
     
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    couldnt resist Kenny - Sorry
     
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    I took the front and rear DOOR cards from Charlie hoping to add the seat cloth instead of the Laser cloth. The top section of the panel has black plastic heat moulded to the cloth and the bottom section a metal strip that goes through the door card, easy enough to separate you would think but the cloth and the plastic are fused together. Decided the only way forward is to have the black plastic lazer cut in metal, slightly wider than the original trim with thin threaded bolts welded to the metal to attach at the rear of the panel. I can then glue the seat material to the panel and the metal trim can overlap the cloth and plastic and it should look fine - I hope. It was at this point I gave up for now and decided to buy a body kit.

    I have a Mk2 Escort fitted with an x-pack and decided to go for a Capri half x-pack to match the Escort. I tried all the usual folk and it appears the only place you can get this kit is through CCI. I joined the club and purchased a kit which I received within a few days. I also needed a couple of wings as the CCI kit is just the arch and spoiler. I spoke to CCI about buying two new wings to cut up for the x-pack and CCI did an excellent deal on a pair of new wings, really happy with the service I got.

    I cut the inside tub at the widest point and tubbed the arch using a band of metal about ten inches wide by about five feet. I used the outside edge of the band to attach to the flared arch. It took ages to shape the band and add a 90 degree bend but eventually the flared arch fitted and I had an edge to bond to the body kit. I fixed the arch using copious amounts of Tiger Seal and stainless steel pop rivets. I know folk are against using rivets but they do fix the kit tight to the body and I would have needed at least 60 screws.
     
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    Some images D3FB6997-1216-44B6-AEE2-505A63A3CDB1.jpeg
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    The biggest problem I had is what bumpers do I use. The Laser bumper no longer fits and theres not many options for replacing them. I could have smoothed the rear panel and done something similar to the front. I decided to have a go at modifying the bumper and came up with this. It’s the original bumper with home made end caps, each end cap is about eight pieces of metal cut and shaped and added to the original. 1D760DA1-7B64-4627-89B2-2B28EB616606.jpeg 212E7F4C-BD58-4C9E-BBF4-4B0C575AD09B.jpeg
     
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    id love to do this but there is no way in hell id be able to get the rims to fill these arches, not at present any way
     
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    interesting choice of the 1/2pack early arches onto the facelift Capri II..
    my only ever gripe with that kit was the awkward fuel filler..
    nice works - Charlie is going to look really good when done..
     
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    Lots of work done! Keep the pics coming. Finn.
     
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    The wheels are 10.5 inch across the inside of the rims and still look a little small, could try spacers to push them out a little but can live with them sitting inside the arch. Not sure if the fronts will fit yet they may be a little wide at 9.5 inch, the wheels came off a racing Mk2 Escort.

    The filler flap is a little iffy and will take lots of work to make nice. The arch came with no way of securing the filler part to the body. I ended up welding a 2 inch strip of metal around the filler flap and the arch sat into the u shaped metal. I bonded and riveted the arch 6139B1A6-A945-42A3-B438-21F37AB0282C.jpeg 40E32995-811D-4F50-B741-B1CE958C7A14.jpeg in place.

    The next few weeks will be filler and sanding until the rear is in primer and ready for paint. When I get fed up with sanding I will have another go at the door cards.

    Once the rear is done I will have a go at the scuttle, wings and front arches.
     
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    Bold moves -- I like the confidence that shows from your bumper mod. It looks right from here.
    Tyres, those sound obese. What did you feed them? :)
     
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    You aren't hanging about there, good progress, have you thought about hinging the filler flap from the horizontal top edge, bit like a gullwing door.
     
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    the filler flap in the X-pack kit does my head in, the later kit bad enough, but you get the impression they weren't really thinking this design through..
    Have you looked at inserting a different filler type higher up the panel?
    not as far as the Mk1, but enough to clear your kit..

    As with Gary I am quite taken with your bumper mods, never did like Fords facelift polythene add-ons..
    great works
     
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    Thanks for the comments, much appreciated.

    The tyres have a 50 profile but due to the width it’s a little taller than I would have liked. I looked for a 40 but couldn’t find anything other than the BFG. If the wheels had been 16 or 17’s the options would have been huge.

    The bumpers are a bit strange. When you look at the gap between the bumper and the back panel on a standard car the gap is huge. It would have been easy to move the corners tighter into the body but this would have looked a little odd with the gap at the back panel. The modifications are a compromise and still need loads of work.

    I will have a go at fitting the flap like a gull wing door and see how I get on, seems the best idea.

    I had thought about moving the filler cap and using an aero style cap but didn’t fancy the thought of a fuel leak and took the easy option.
     
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    5C821268-5BF3-4028-A13C-4DB2B6DEBF42.jpeg The rear arches are now fitted and filled and an aero filler fitted. I removed the petrol tank to modify the filler pipe and ended up cleaning and painting the petrol tank. This has lead to the underside of the boot floor being cleaned and under sealed along with the inner wheel tubs. The axle looked scruffy so I have cleaned the axle and fitted a new diff cover as the old one had seen better days. The rear brakes have been stripped and new shoes and pistons will soon be fitted. I cleaned and freed up the handbrake mechanism and brake adjuster. The anti roll bar has been removed and powder coated along with the tank straps, handbrake bar and bump stop mounts. I have heard the term “project creep” and don’t want to end up removing the axle and springs so plan to paint everything in place. I’m not great at recording everything as I go along so I will add photos when I get it all painted and rebuilt.

    I have added the brake drums as they have been wire brushed and painted with rust inhibitor, not sure if I should paint them or not.
     
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    The arse end of the car is nearly finished so time to start the front. Finally got the wing removed expected some rust and this is what I found. Ahhhhhhhh

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    Charlie was never going to be a restoration project so some patching required. I had some thick metal that was ideal for the a-post and shaped it and welded it in. For the sill end I purchased patch panels and welded them in as well. It’s not the prettiest job but the drivers side is now solid and I can get the wing welded on then prepare the inner wing for painting 28F77B5E-17E5-4192-BFD9-7B55316EC266.jpeg 648EC7B7-F207-4EED-A371-1D6B7B4619BB.jpeg 86CADB50-622E-46A5-9E8A-C22B87BA5D4B.jpeg 21D16F75-B4DF-4527-9DB5-6F6C670FE50E.jpeg
     
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    doing great Kenny
    pics of the aero-cap fuel filler ??

    ps - local Capris.. was in the Tesco in Castle Douglas, and there was a rather nice black 78 in .. something like GCY in the plate..
    then just a few days ago coming down to the van, Black Mk1 special waiting to turn out of the Crossmichael road..
    quite a few down here in D&G it seems..
     
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    Managed to get the new wing fitted along with patches to the front panel, headlight bowl and drip rail. After a little work on the wing I managed to get the shut line liveable. I cut most of the newly fitted wing off to get the wing extension fitted and managed to get the wing extension reasonably tight. I used a tube of Tiger seal and some screw bolt type things to pull the wing tight to the extension. No pop rivets needed on the front. The good thing about the front is you can work the wing from the inside and make sure the Tiger seal is filling all the gaps. Looks a little messy but should clean up nicely. I have turned the car so I can make a start to the passenger side over the weekend and the longer the sealer gets to set the better. 195442BE-FC9E-416B-BE09-51D3DF3ED922.jpeg BA5291E8-70B7-4120-B348-4CF2FF0E018F.jpeg 5E9635B7-EDA9-4C7B-B78A-837CFF4FBADF.jpeg 33EDFDE7-30D2-4835-810F-AB76F8B07F7F.jpeg 5A403E0A-F290-4816-BB13-0A4750677E3F.jpeg 65AC02ED-A86A-4C33-8D56-55EF1CA8560A.jpeg B4A63A29-883F-4CAB-9302-30F0EBBEE447.jpeg
     
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    5D3276A2-73BC-4FA6-90CE-A234E47092FD.jpeg EE4C54DF-403A-40F1-BD84-C6E6CC27A0AA.jpeg The passenger side a post is the one I was most worried about as there is a large rust hole on the scuttle. Cut the wing off and pleasantly surprised by the small amount of rust. Again nothing fancy just patches to replace the rust, got most of the holes filled but ran out of time and gas. Should manage to get the new wing and extension fitted before next weekend. Still a couple of very small rust spots to be removed and patched and need to finish the drip rails but Charlie will very soon be rust free.
     
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    thats solid why is it always the passenger (left) side that rots most, rhetorical question
     
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    GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZUSSSS! I knew Charlie had some rust problems, didn't know it was that extensive. Keep up with the pics and progress. Finn.
     
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    doing a Premium job on Charlie for sure .. ..

    Nice watching ..
     
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    Kenny, what did you do with the wing edge, cut it away and marry up to the extension? or is the original wing still all under there? Paul.
     
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    Hi Finn, the old wings have both been removed, had to to get the drip rails repaired and the a posts welded and couldn’t do so with the wings in place. The new wing was welded on and when I got the gaps as good as I could I bolted the fibreglass arch in place and marked where they would need attached. I then cut the newly fitted wing until I had enough left to attach the arch without leaving sharp edges inside the wing. Really pleased with the way they fitted and it wasn’t to difficult to do. Nearly got the passenger wing fitted and should have the wing extension fitted this weekend. I’ve got some leave coming up and hope to have the car ready for paint by the end of September.

    What would you do for paint? I thought about the Gulf livery.
     
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    Or even Martini? saw a couple yesterday on the M1, not Capris, were moving too fast for me to see what they were!
     
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    Gulf colours are good, your car, your choice, I've always liked black Capris, they look menacing especially with a body kit.
     
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    i do like the old Martini race colour and as yet never seen a capri done like that
     
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    Clockwork Orange Glasgow Subway- Keeping it simple since 1896 Staff Member Moderator

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    mmm .. Gulf livery with that evocative orange.. could even play the Gunsons colour for a bit of a contrast.. Olympic Blue on a Capri II looks great..
    Martini colours is good stripes on a white ground, so an easy base for some artistry ..
     
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    The fuel tank has been refitted and the pipe work for the filler is all in place. I can’t get the aero filler properly fitted until the car is painted but it can now be fuelled and driven. I have added photos of the pipe work and you may get an idea of the cost to fit and aero fuel cap. All the pipes have internal pipe connectors to help reduce the chance of leaks. The silver pipe took a fair bit of cutting and welding but sits close to where it originally sat. Hopefully it won’t leak. 0F372ED9-CF3B-4269-B0BD-BA23C7D6016E.jpeg 15CBE6AD-1D3B-4381-A35B-1863A6544EE0.jpeg C2524BC8-5EBE-41B2-AF96-F7A97A3E9643.jpeg 4201E7F8-B728-47B0-B8B3-0E4A75DC73BF.jpeg
     
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    That pipework looks very tidy. Finn.
     
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    will it flow in ok with the 90 degree bend in it, will it not back up when filling at all ?
    nice tidy work though
     
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    Clockwork Orange Glasgow Subway- Keeping it simple since 1896 Staff Member Moderator

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    Should flow fine Rog, looks at least 2inch diameter, and not closing up around the bends.. Good height difference too, don’t think a 22mm nozzle is going to overfill that intake pipe..
     
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    it was just a thought, but will take that as the answer Al thank you
     
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    Clockwork Orange Glasgow Subway- Keeping it simple since 1896 Staff Member Moderator

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    Fitted an aero-cap on Rumbly, didn’t do it like this, starting to wish I did !!
    Too late for me, panel is cut and it does flow fine.. I just really prefer how Kenny has done it.
     
  63. caprinerd

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    does look good and gets around that filler cap issues so many have with the xpack kits
     
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    C66A6379-03E3-4809-9F79-ECD184A212AB.jpeg 5C1EFC55-4C28-484B-9534-9A8CD2C4B300.jpeg 03AC6077-1923-47FF-9C72-E5CE89DEECC4.jpeg Both front wing extensions now bonded on and front spoiler fitted. I have made a start on filling and smoothing but I can see that being a feature of my days off for a while. The spoiler only sits about an inch lower than the front panel but it must be a feature of the kit.
     
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