Engine change ST.170

Discussion in 'Capri Chit Chat' started by panch, 12 August 2018.

  1. panch

    panch Registered Capri Power Member

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    I have got the engine who knows what else I need thanks panch
     
  2. mgentry90

    mgentry90 Registered Capri Power Member

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    Don’t retroford do all the gubbins for these conversions? If not there was another company who do this in a Capri, worth googling and asking their advise
     
  3. Clockwork Orange

    Clockwork Orange Glasgow Subway- Keeping it simple since 1896 Staff Member Moderator

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    one job at a time squire .. !!
     
  4. panch

    panch Registered Capri Power Member

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    Yes i know but i only have till june 2019 for santa pod
     
  5. Clockwork Orange

    Clockwork Orange Glasgow Subway- Keeping it simple since 1896 Staff Member Moderator

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    fix the shell properly and Santa Pod and the fans will welcome you..
    its all about appearing fit.. then you can play with engines
     
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    Wideboy Registered Capri Power Member

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    My son has just finished this conversion on his Capri..The engine is the cheap bit.
    I will sort out a couple of links to his Capriworld and RWD Zetecworld which explain whats required etc.
    There are a couple of other suppliers out there other than Retro ford who can help out with the essentials
    such has engine mounts-sump-water rail etc.
     
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    panch Registered Capri Power Member

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    Ok cool thanks mate send me what you got thanks panch
     
  8. Wideboy

    Wideboy Registered Capri Power Member

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    Hi Panch
    Here is list of the main bits he has bought.

    Things like the Sump-Water rail-engine mounts he had made by a guy called Neil Dunne who supply's bits and pieces similar to Retroford
    The ECU is a ME221
    Throttle bodies-DanST ZX10r kit
    Flywheel :-http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ZETEC-RWD-FLYWHEEL-ANGLIA-ESCORT-CORTINA-LOTUS-INC-NEW-RINGEAR-NEW-UK-CASTINGS-/152365909592?hash=item2379b74658:g:OF4AAOSwIgNXji0L
    Most other bits and pieces picked up off e-bay has they became available.



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    The outlay comes close to £3000 however what you have to remember is that the money is in the ancillaries not the engine.
    To get 170-180 BHP out of a Pinto would be nearly as expensive and if the engine goes Pete Tong it will be an expensive fix.
    However with the ST170 170-180 BHP is out of the box and if it goes Pete Tong all you need to do is a pick up a engine for a couple of hundred quid and swap it out.

    There are a multitude of things that crop up when doing the conversion but join Facebook sites like RWD Zetecworld and Capriworld and there will be somebody out there who has already sorted it or will offer useful advice.


    Here is link to the first time it moved.

    Its running just an open exhaust manifold but he was desperate to see if it moved.

    There is now a temporary exhaust on there,however he is going to get a Stainless one made and also it needs a rolling road mapping session so these are all things that need to be factored in.

    The car has had a shakedown run out of about 80 miles and seems sweet although needs setting up properly.

    There are cheaper ways to do it like cut and shutting exhaust manifolds and running different engine management and induction.
    If you use carbs and cheaper management you could probably knock about £800-900 of the costs.
    However the above setup ensures that the full potential of the engine and VVT can be used.

    Hope this helps
    Jeff
     
  9. 8anton

    8anton Registered Capri Power Member

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    Great list and info! Just at the start of my st170 journey … well I’m hoping to buy an engine in the next 3-4 months … so not even started! But super helpful! Will be book marking this one!
     
  10. Clockwork Orange

    Clockwork Orange Glasgow Subway- Keeping it simple since 1896 Staff Member Moderator

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    so time to start your members Capri log - that could be your online blog & diary all in one !!
     
  11. caprinerd

    caprinerd Registered Capri Power Member

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    like to know where you can get an ST170 for 200 these days though
     
  12. kenny james

    kenny james Registered Capri Power Member

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    My daily is an ST170 great wee cars but very thirsty. I had initially planned this engine swap for a Mk2 Escort. The engines sell for more than complete mot failures and these wee cars rust so there’s plenty of mot failures. If you don’t mind the hassle involved in breaking a car and selling what’s left it is the cheapest option. When I looked at the cost of fitting one to an Escort I have to agree with Jeff all the money is in the bits needed for the conversion.

    Quick moan. The one ST170 problem that really grates me is the air bag stitching on the seats is all fraying. It’s not just the bolster it’s also the side stitching. I know this is due to the weaker thread to allow the seat skin to burst but it really makes a nice interior look crap.
     

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