Love 'em Or Hate 'em, Isn't It About Saving Them?

Discussion in 'Capri Chit Chat' started by CapriMk1man, 26 June 2012.

  1. CapriMk1man

    CapriMk1man Registered Capri Power Member

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    Is it just me or are we classic Ford lovers who work to keep - in our case Capris, on the road?
    I can't quite get my head around the latest event advert which is for a Cortina 50th anniversary banger race involving 175 cars.
    Now it's been a while since I went to a banger race meeting but I seem to recall that the idea is to hit one another and basically destroy the cars.
    Given the scarcity of some parts (certainly for Capris) and probably for Cortinas, why would you go out and destroy 175 of them in "celebration"?
     
  2. Stuartlewis

    Stuartlewis Registered Capri Power Member

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    Lmao!! It's total madness , hell mend them!! :)
     
  3. phorbiuz

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    I've just been given a mk4 Cortina by a chap who'd had it from almost brand new. Been his daily driver for just over 30 years. Because it's rough he knew it was in Banger territory so gave it to me on the proviso it's not where it ends up due to his emotional attachment. Being admin on BuySellCortina and the mk3 register rep for the 1-5 Cortina Owners Club helped too.

    Thing is, in their defence, (and no I've never even been to a meet) you can't save them all and at least the good racers give you the chance to buy the bits off them.

    I've had a mk2 Granada and a Series 3 Jag go off to the racers in the last few years. Jag was fecked and I got all the good stuff off it I could, but Granada could have been saved with welding underneath. The Granada is the best point though - I even offered it for free to the club at a show and no-one could be bothered with it. Great rust free panels and no-one was interested. What was I supposed to do, store it at the front of my house in the hope? Not likely.

    Like it or lump it these races happen unfortunately.
     
  4. Laser

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    Crazy ! Been hearing stories about this event now years ago it was an accepted sport, i do hope the cars used are al ready stripped of all useful spares to keep others on the road , but is safe to say there goes 175 axles, props, starters , and 350 front suspension set ups on the way to the metal reclaimers ...
     
  5. alex42

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    rite where should i start on this topic. I'm sat on the fence as i can understand that a lot of classic ford enthuusiats will be upset to see 170 cars be destroyed in one night but then without banger racers spare parts would be expensive and hard to come by iv had many a free bits for my cappa off of the racers at the end of the day these lads will usually smash up a mondeo vectra jags lexus's etc on a weekend to weekend basis u can't blame them for jumping at the opportunity to go out on track with 170 cars of yesterworld. iv heard stories off of ex racers when the cortina was ten a penny and they were always out on track but to younger lads like my age we have never seen it and its one hell of a spectacle and once in a lifetime opportunity to have a go at this meeting. the thing is people are moaning about all these cars but think how long have these lads had them sitting round there yard or they have been out and found the cars it annoys me when people have a winge about this because if you went out and found the cars instead of hiding behind the keyboard it woulnt be happening. Why not take a trip to swaffam and go and see what it is all about i can reassure u that u will be gobsmacked by the level of prep in some of the cars even more so than some of the cars you see on the road

    Each to their own and all that but at the end of the day the lads who are racing this meet are doing it because its their hobby like we restore old capris they crash cars don't tar all these lads with the same brush it would be such a naive thing to do.

    i know not everyone will agree with my opinion but hey ho

    I'm ready for a stone bashing now anyway better go hide somewhere
     
  6. Rainbowfrank

    Rainbowfrank Registered Capri Power Member

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    Something else now...
    some banger racers have the car so reinforced that they can use the same shell for multiple races.

    if theyve been prepped for years, and used many a time, then i don't see a problem. :thumbup1:

    would love to see this in the flesh
     
  7. parisblue28special

    parisblue28special Registered Capri Power Member

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    I work for a company in St Helens and see a two tone brown Cortina Crusader almost every morning heading through St Helens across to Speke, don't suppose that's you is it??
     
  8. chriscapriman

    chriscapriman Registered Capri Power Member

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    difficult to live with in a way, but fun to watch and i cant imagine any mint tinas will be getting raced :sleepy: . also think of the parts, a sudden influx of glass, lights and loads of other bits, not to mention engines and boxes etc that survive :boxedin:

    i've saved a few cars from the bangers as the lads i know wont race a good car (cos thats just stupid as mint cars cost more to buy, if they ever find a little mint bargain they will usualy sell it on at a profit), a case in point is the granada below, passed onto me by a banger lad so i got it and used it for two years :thumbup1:

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    needless to say, everyone on forums was banging on about how good it was that it was saved and how bad banger lads are etc, despite me pointing out many of them gave me parts for this and capris.
    when i come to sell it for what it owed me, not one person who 'loved it so much' even came to look :rolleyes: even when i told them a banger lad had offered me very close to the asking price but due to its rareity (try finding another 2.0 pre facelift mk2 granny in corsican blue with less than 60k and 3 owners, you wont!) needless to say i didnt let it go the banger track, but gs escorts got it and have broke the engine and some other bits so its future is still not safe a year later. it was a 700quid old ford with a bit of tax, lots of mot and solid, just needed a bit of tidying up to get it mint.

    my point is, money talks. when these cars are for sale, then buy them. if you don't and someone else does, you can't realy have any say in what happens to them <_< and atleast when they go the bangers they go out with a bang, as opposed to sitting in someones garden rotting slowly away into the ground :DeadHorse:
     
  9. CapriMk1man

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    I take your points gents (all those offering a defence of the banger racers)and I know we can't save them all. I guess the question is when does it become unacceptable to the classic car fraternity to see there marque being deliberately destroyed for fun.
    It's certainly insensitive during the 50th anniversary year of the Cortina to stage an even designed to destroy 175 of the marque.
    How would we feel when we get to the Capris 50th to see a similar event I wonder?? 175 cars out of those remaining would be a huge chuck!
    I'm a hoarder - I think most Mk1 owners are, simply because we've experienced how difficult its getting to obtain even the most "standard" of parts. I get the impression that we aren't far off the same problem for Mk2s and Mk3s.
    The banger boys may well let classic owners have the pick of whats left - and also the bits they need to remove before they can safely race but, inevitably, no matter how far gone the vehicle is, some parts that are perfectly serviceable pre race will be destroyed come the end and, to me, with something now as old and rare as a Cortina, that's a shame.
     
  10. Doc

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    get em crashed i say ! Or buy em and save em as chris says
     
  11. phorbiuz

    phorbiuz Registered Capri Power Member

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    No mate. A mint silver mk3 saloon, a midnight blue mk4 estate (soon to be black), a blue XR4i, and a black A reg 2.8 Cappa, commonly seen around the Middlehurst Nissan area. I do/did have an 86 Paris Blue Special too that I've been restoring but have had an offer for it so I'm pretty sure it's going.
     
  12. alex42

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    problem here being that you won't ever understand their mentality if ur gna be blinded by the fact that is destroying them blah blah blah. at the end of the day racing is a hobby for them lads like restoring cars is to us so ur telling me ud turn the opportunity down to go out in a cruise with 175 capris i know for a fact i wudnt. the fact is classic car enthusiast may celebrate by shows etc but to a banger racer a cortina is a main part of racings history so they want to go out and celebrate it the way they know at the end of the day they aint sat there thinking i know wot we will run an all cortina meet just to p**s off all the classic owners they are celebrating it by racing like when its a persons birthday one may go out on a night out, another for a meal, another abroad, another nothing its just personal preference
    175 cars some from across europe some too rotten to even attempt to fix some finds and some buys there are a lot more than 175 cars left its a lot yes but bet more than that would be raced across a whole season

    i just think its wrong to be having a go at a group of people who are trying to do something to celebrate the birthday of the cortina in a different way just try and understand it from a racers point of view
     
  13. kyle28i

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    Get em crashed. Its only cortinas. :) :) :) This is a capri forum aint it. Id be Borthered if it was 100+ of capris being smashed up for fun.
     
  14. MarkW

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    My first car was a Mk4 Cortina that ended up being banger raced at Skegness, thing is it was in really good Nick but back then only worth £100: hard to believe. I don't know how I stand on this, not my barrow really so don't know pros and cons.
     
  15. Pete Haddon

    Pete Haddon Registered Capri Power Member

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    I didnt post up the event to upset anyone, sorry to anyone it may of offended.
     

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