Upgraded Front Brakes, 300Mm Brembo

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  1. armstrs

    armstrs Registered Capri Power Member

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    It's was the during the summer last year when a Toyota Yugo pulled out in front of me and I decided although the 280 is standard except for the stainless Janspeeds I fitted a few weeks ago, it was time to upgrade the brakes. Fitted one side today and below is some before and after pics, keeping all the old parts so its only a 1 hour job to put back to standard if needed or to make standard if I sell it one day. The new set up are calipers off a Fiat coupe turbo, refurbished and 300mm discs. A doddle to fit, remove old disc off the back of the hub, Replace hub without the disc and fit new extended grease cap with centres the wheel, and longer wheel studs. Fit disc and bolt on caliper.

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    Standard 2.8 pads and Fiat coupe pads
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  2. Matt2103

    Matt2103 Registered Capri Power Member

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    I've done the same with mine using focus RS callipers. What calliper brackets did you use.
     
  3. armstrs

    armstrs Registered Capri Power Member

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    Got the brackets off "caprisport" off eBay with the discs.
     
  4. Finn

    Finn Registered Capri Power Member

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    That looks really good, should pull you up no bother. Finn.
     
  5. EbayCapri

    EbayCapri Registered Capri Power Member

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    So are the discs off of the Fiat as well? Does look pretty smart I must say :thumbup1:
     
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    Vernon240 Registered Capri Power Member

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    I think these are re drilled BMW discs. This is exactly the conversion I'd like to do. So the important question. How do they perform? Certainly look the business!
     
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    stevep28 Registered Capri Power Member

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    Do you need to change the master cylinder or servo too?
     
  8. Laser Capri

    Laser Capri Registered Capri Power Member

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    Did the same thing to my dad's 280 last year, they are the business although if you fit them it's best to have rear discs and/or possibly an adjustable bias to make sure you have the front to back brake bias correct. It's a pretty straight forward swap and absolutely worth it, your callipers look great in black btw makes me regret using red. Where did you get your extended grease caps from?
     
  9. armstrs

    armstrs Registered Capri Power Member

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    Hi, the discs are modified BMW ones and the extended bleed nipples were just off eBay. I had to think for a long time what colour to make the calipers and I'm happy with the look of the black. The questions on how they perform, I have no idea only fitted one side today and everyone was out so need to bleed it then fit the other side so should be on the road for a test in a few days but on night shift now can't wait to get them finished. Once tested I may have to fit a bias valve just gonna test it first and the master cylinder is all just standard 2.8 at the mo. Will update once I've road tested it. Cheers
     
  10. Matt2103

    Matt2103 Registered Capri Power Member

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    I've got the Land Rover master cylinder on mine as the 2.8 on didn't have the guts. My discs are Focus ST 170 which fit straight on same stud pattern.
     
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    EbayCapri Registered Capri Power Member

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    And going to your previous question, what calliper brackets did you use Matt2103?
     
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    Matt2103 Registered Capri Power Member

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    I made my own.
     
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    Matt2103 Registered Capri Power Member

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    These are mine
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    looks dam good m8 could you do any more for sale?, brackets i mean, and how did you split the brake lines as capri one has 3 outlets where as the landy has 2? also i take it only works on a 15 inch wheel ?
     
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    Matt2103 Registered Capri Power Member

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    They were one offs don't really want to make anymore sorry. The brake lines are split with a T piece for both fronts coming off the larger port of the MC and the rears coming off the other into a bias valve.
    I'm running 17" wheels as clearance is tight.

    Sorry for taking over this thread.
     
  16. armstrs

    armstrs Registered Capri Power Member

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    Matt. I like your discs they look even sexier, groved and drilled. I never knew they would fit or I would have bought some instead of the plain discs and don't worry about taking over the thread it's all about the same stuff, big discs and sexy brembo calipers
     
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    Looks good and I'm on my way too.

    Just a friendly hint; Make sure the bleed nipples are on top of the caliper.

    The last pictures seem to show calipers upside down, that will make them hard to bleed...

    Gustaf
     
  18. Matt2103

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    They were the test fit pictures I have since changed it round with the bleed nipple at the top.
     
  19. BigJ

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    Has anyone ever fitted a 2.8 servo and master cylinder to a Pinto engined car? Not sure what the difference is between a 2.8 and a Pinto m/c is with regard to bore size and fittings as the caliper pistons and wheel cylinders are the same aren't they?

    I believe the 2.8 servo is the better of the two....?
     
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    capri sport recommend the 2.0 L Laser servo (with take off at the 2.0 o clock) with the landy mc
     
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    Good :) I thought so...but I have seen quite a lot of cars with them upside down too.

    Gustaf
     
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    Just a update, Fitted both sides and been for a test run the issue as many will already know, too much brake peddle travel, re-bled just incase there was some air but still the same. Gonna have to put a land rover master cylinder on, but I've been advised these don't fit on a 2.8 servo.

    Question can I modify the master cylinder to fit on a 2.8 servo or do I have to fit a servo from a 2.0 and how do u recognise a 2.0 servo.


    Thanks Stephen.
     
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    trevster mk 2 Registered Capri Power Member

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    caprisport say use the 2.0 laser which has the vacuum take off at the 2 oclock as you look at it from the front hopefully a pic of mine to follow
    actually looks almost 3 oclock

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    armstrs Registered Capri Power Member

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    A bit more cluttered but a pic of mine, I think the pipe is at about 2 o'clock so I'm not sure if my 280 has a 2.0 servo fitted or if its a 2.8 one
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    trevster mk 2 Registered Capri Power Member

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    not sure can't really see from that but it's possible that as the 280 was the last produced and the laser not far behind they may be the same, i'm sure some one will answer this with more knowledge than me
    hope you get it sorted
    trev
     
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    Can the 2.0 and 2.8 servos be swapped providing you use the matching m/c and reservoir?
     
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    Its the stud size thats important. 2lt servos have m10 studs which match the land rover master cylinder. I dont think the actual servos perform any better..
     
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    I loked around for quite a while before finding some calipers that looked similar to what was used on the works cars in the seventies.I have 11in discs up front with standard size rears.The calipers came from a Nissan 200zx! Very light, and spares cheap enough and plenty about.2ltr servo, LR master, all works extremely well.
     
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    Only issue I can see with these kits is the fact you have to drill the strut calliper bolt holes to be able to fit them rendering them unable to return to back to the original callipers but personally why would you want to with those slowing you down.
     
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    Did you need to drill out the caliper mounting brackets on the struts to fit the new capri sport brackets, if so you wont be able to go back to standard
     
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    classiccapri Registered Capri Power Member

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    You dont take the threads out on the 300mm conversion. Only the 260/280 kits need this.
     
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    Some great mods there [​IMG]

    Are you all experiencing greatly improved stopping power or finding that the front wheels are more prone to locking up ?
     
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    Martin, tested the car in the wet the brakes were better but had to pump the peddle a coupe of times to make the work really well then they felt good. The fronts never locked up but gonna change to land rover mc and on the look out for. 2.0 servo. Just for info never had to drill any bolt homes on the struts they just bolted straight on with the brackets supplied.

    Regards Stephen.
     
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    Out of interest who supplied the brackets as they don't look like CapriSport items.
     
  35. Clockwork Orange

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    2litre servos / land rover servos have the same fittings as far as stud size / spacing AND master cylinder is concerned

    28 servos and master cylinders are a different fit as far as stud diameter and push rod are concerned ... if the Capri 28 m/c is not man enough for the job, ie too small capacity to cope with caliper cylinder diameters ...
    try Mk2 granada m/c, same fittings for the servo and a bigger cylinder diameter ...
    Landrover m/c / 2litre servo is NOT the only alternative ...

    I think you will find that if you measure the servos, diameter/ depth .. the 28 / 20 servos will have the same capacity / boost characteristics, but the M/C fittings are different
     
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    Thanks Stephen
     

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